“Group or Dream 26”: An Irish-Scottish R1b (M269) Mini-Cluster

Last Updated on Monday, April 24, 2006 at 6:11 PM

 

This is a joint genealogical effort to try to explain the old connections between the families discussed. This may contain errors. If you think you see something you want to copy, please also do me the favor of contacting the maker of this webpage (ksm6 “at” cornell.edu) to give me a chance to update you on the latest possibilities.

 

Although they do not all share the same surname, we believe the families listed here are related within historical times.

 

What to call this extended family? The name “Group 26” derives from John McEwan’s cluster analysis of 37 marker Y-STR haplotypes on www.ysearch.org. The section of the phylogram containing “cluster 26” (“R1bSTR26”) is to be found here: http://www.geocities.com/mcewanjc/37strallhapr1btwo.pdf. (Use the zoom in function of your toolbar.) Several of the individuals within that cluster are clearly unrelated to the rest. Indeed, it has been found that Steidel (Q4KFQ) and Kenyon (DUXP2) have unusual SNP mutations thought to be quite ancient (S28 and M167 respectively) making it certain they are quite unrelated. The families which seem most clearly to be really related are mainly Irish and Scottish, with several having “Mac” surnames.

 

On the other hand, we believe we have discovered a very useful test for distinguishing at least one of our families of interest from general R1b haplotypes, and this is the so-called “Kittler test”. This test is a special version of the test for DYS385, which distinguishes the two markers by their position in the Y chromosome. More specifically, MacLea WZCV3 has done this test and found that his two markers are in the opposite position compared to nearly all R1b people who have done that test. (The test can be ordered at DNA Fingerprint.)

 

NEWSFLASH. In contrast to our MacLea family, our McCauley family has the normal 14-11 result. It seems our MacLeas are a branch off from the main line, and have a very unusual mutation. It is suspected that our McLins may also share it.

 

 

 

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